Witnesses Announced for Landmark UFO Congressional Hearing

Written by Christopher Sharp - 8 November 2024

The names of four witnesses set to testify at next week's Congressional hearing on government transparency and reports of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) have been confirmed.

In a press release, the House Oversight Committee named the witnesses scheduled to appear before its two subcommittees: Cybersecurity, Information Technology, and Government Innovation; and National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs as:

  • Tim Gallaudet
    Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (RET.)
    Chief Executive Officer, Ocean STL Consulting, LLC

  • Luis Elizondo
    Author, and Former Department of Defense Official

  • Michael Gold
    Chief Growth Officer, Redwire Corporation, and Former National Aeronautics and Space Administration Associate Administrator

  • Michael Shellenberger
    Founder of Public

In a joint statement today, Republican Representatives Nancy Mace and Glenn Grothman, who chair the two committees, expressed hope that the witnesses testifying on 13 November 2024 will provide valuable insights and help bring greater accountability to the UAP issue.

The statement read:

“This is our second hearing on the topic of UAPs and the American people are tired of the obfuscation and refusal to release information by the federal government.

“Americans deserve to understand what the government has learned about UAP sightings, and the nature of any potential threats these phenomena pose.

“We can only ensure that understanding by providing consistent, systemic transparency. We look forward to hearing from expert witnesses on ways to shed more light and bring greater accountability to this issue.”

The hearing is expected to cover a range of topics, from submerged UAP sightings reported by submariners to alleged legacy programs focused on retrieving and reverse-engineering advanced non-human materials and craft. 

Journalist Michael Shellenberger's presence suggests that the hearing will also address his recent story about an alleged Unacknowledged Special Access Program run out of the Secretary of Defense’s Office, known as IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION. It was reportedly established to detect and quarantine the military’s most compelling UAP imagery, videos, eyewitness accounts, and electronic sensor evidence.

However, the Department of Defense (DoD) has denied the existence of the alleged program, with spokesperson Susan Gough telling Liberation Times:

“The Department of Defense has no record, present or historical, of any type of SAP called ‘IMMACULATE CONSTELLATION.’”

Liberation Times followed up with the DoD, asking whether it had at any time in the past or present, operated any programs that utilised the codeword ‘IMMACULATE’ or any variation thereof.

In response, Susan Gough stated:

“The department has no record of any use of the word ‘IMMACULATE’ for any DoD Special Access Program or Alternative Compensatory Control Measure.”

Distinguished oceanographer Gallaudet has previously recounted accounts from submariners who encountered unidentified submerged objects, also characterised as UAP, which are transmedium devices or objects capable of moving through water, air and space. 

According to Gallaudet, one 1980s incident involved a U.S. submarine that detected an unidentified, fast-approaching object mistaken for a Russian torpedo, which then slowed, circled, and trailed the vessel before quickly departing. Gallaudet noted that this object’s behaviour and characteristics couldn’t be explained by current or past technology.

The presence of Luis Elizondo, former Director of the U.S. government's previous UAP program, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), will provide him with an opportunity to discuss the threats he has faced since leaving government service and publicly sharing his experiences of UAP interfering with sensitive U.S. defense assets.

Speaking to Liberation Times, Elizondo stated:

“The time has come for our elected officials to be informed of the reality regarding the UAP issue and the long-standing campaign by some in our Government to hide the truth.

“To do this, we will need everyone’s support so we can clear a path for more whistleblowers to feel safe and come forward with what they know. Whether you agree with my position or not, I consider the 13th of November to be YOUR day! I want to also thank the members of Congress for their courage and tenacity, and my fellow witnesses who will be testifying under oath.”

A new name for those following the UAP topic is Michael Gold, a member of NASA's independent study team on UAP. Gold was NASA’s Associate Administrator for Space Policy and Partnerships between 2019 and 2021. Of note, between 2003 and 2016, he was Bigelow Aerospace LLC’s Director of D.C. Operations & Business Growth. 

Gold’s former boss, Robert Bigelow, played a key role in efforts to transfer materials of advanced, non-human origin from Lockheed Martin to a program within the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) known as the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP). 

When efforts failed, those involved in AAWSAP helped establish a Prospective Special Access Program (PSAP) within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as an alternative means to accomplish the transfer. That effort also failed.

Speaking to Liberation Times, multiple sources claimed that these material transfer efforts were blocked by former CIA Director of Science and Technology, Glenn Gaffney, when he held the position.

Gaffney’s alleged interference in the material transfer left those involved—including the now-deceased James Ryder, former Vice President of Lockheed Martin Space Systems, who is said to have led efforts within Lockheed Martin—feeling threatened due to the harshness of exchanges with CIA officials. 

Ultimately, Liberation Times understands that the transfer was blocked by Gaffney, as the CIA’s Directorate of Technology remains the original custodian of the alleged non-human materials, which Lockheed Martin may still possess to this day.

At next week’s hearing, insiders hope that witnesses are pressed on Gaffney’s alleged involvement as a UAP legacy program gatekeeper. 

Liberation Times understands that next week’s hearing is expected to be the first of many on the UAP topic in the House of Representatives, with the aim of establishing a process similar to the Church Committee, which investigated Intelligence Community abuses in the 1970s.

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