Insight

Written by Condorman - 25 April 2024

Insight from a senior level aerospace engineer.

There have been several instances of eyewitnesses reporting rotating discs displaying a wobble effect.

The descriptions are similar to a spinning coin during its last rotations before laying flat on a surface.

Most recently, Lieutenant Ryan Graves attested that the Gimbal object also wobbled post video cut-out.

This wobble effect has not been associated with other reported Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) shapes, including triangles, spheres, and Tic Tacs.

What could cause this movement and why is it only displayed with discs, assuming other shapes also use similar methods of propulsion?

A common assumption is that the anomalous propulsion system that powers these vehicles can manipulate gravity, which means it can manipulate spacetime.

Such a system could be powered by negative matter, as I described in Can Tic Tacs Fly?

Negative matter is a proposed solution for dark energy whose gravitational field would cause all other objects, made of both positive and negative matter, to move away from it. Or it could be done through an Alcubierre drive form of technology powered by zero-point energy. Or even more exotic technology.

But the assumption of spacetime manipulation is what matters.

The propulsion system would curve and bend spacetime as it manipulated gravity fields to propel the vehicle.

As the vehicle accelerates, the distortion of spacetime becomes more severe. And as the vehicle decelerates, the curvature diminishes. To hover or move very slowly, the propulsion system creates a repulsive gravity field under the vehicle, essentially a flat sheet of spacetime, to neutralize its mass. This field acts like a floor under the vehicle and keeps it from falling.

These descriptions are different from the concept of antigravity that has been associated with UFOs in the past.

In this concept, the vehicle is devoid of mass and can hover inside an antigravity bubble unaffected by external factors. With this new proposal, the vehicle still has mass and feels the effect of gravity.

The propulsion system manipulates spacetime to propel the vehicle, and creates a repulsive gravitational field shaped like a flat surface to travel at slow speeds and hover.

Now let’s apply this effect to a spinning disc. Spinning is another commonly described behavior for saucer-shaped vehicles. It could be used as part of the propulsion mechanism or even as a gyroscopic effect to stabilize the vehicle.

Imagine a coin that spins on its own power. When it stops moving forward it begins to wobble on the surface. If the coin kept spinning on its own power, it would continue to wobble indefinitely, as the powered spin counterbalances friction and air resistance.

This concept also applies to anomalous discs. As the disc reduces its forward speed, the propulsion system flattens spacetime into a repulsive gravitational sheet below the vehicle. The disc then begins to wobble. If the disc stops its spin, it will settle on the sheet like a coin settles on a surface. At this point the disc would appear unmoving and stable in the sky.

This effect would be visible in discs with flat bottoms, such as the typical saucers, as well as discs with pointed bottoms, such as Gimbal. In Gimbal’s case, the disc would begin to spin like a spinning top, and eventually settle down to a wobble along its leading edges.

So why don’t we see this effect on triangles? The answer is simple. Triangles are structural flat surfaces that do not spin.

They are typically described as having three bright round lights at the triangle’s vertices. Assuming spinning is a requirement for the propulsion system, the mechanism inside the round lights likely does spin, but not the triangle itself. So the flat triangles can settle on the repulsive sheet and appear steady and stable in the sky when hovering.

Though some spheres have been described to move and shift as if inside a larger bubble, most descriptions of hovering spheres report that they “appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft,” to quote the UAPTF report.

My explanation is that I do not believe spheres use the same spacetime manipulation that the larger vehicles use. I wrote about a possible propulsion system for spheres using the Meissner effect in Can Spheres Fly? This system would allow spheres to easily hover in high winds and accelerate and turn quickly, but not with the agility of the larger vehicles.

And that leaves us with the Tic Tacs.

There is a very important clue in Commander Fravor’s description of the Tic Tac hovering above the disturbed water as he descended to intercept: “We look down, we see a white disturbance in the water, like something's under the surface, and the waves are breaking over, but we see next to it, and it's flying around, and it's this little white Tic Tac, and it's moving around — left, right, forward, back, just random," he is quoted as saying in Navy pilot recalls encounter with UFO: 'I think it was not from this world.’

In other interviews he described the Tic Tac as bouncing around like a ping pong ball.

Can that behavior be tied to a disc’s wobble?

Let’s assume the Tic Tac uses a similar propulsion system to the discs. It was not observed rotating, so if spinning is required by the propulsion mechanism, it is likely done inside the interior of the vehicle. But the Tic Tac has a cylindrical body. It is not flat like a triangle. When it slows down and hovers, it cannot settle on the repulsive flat gravitational field like a triangle. And it cannot wobble like a saucer.

Instead, it rolls and tumbles and uses the appendages to stop its side motion. Then it rolls and tumbles in the opposite way with the appendages again stopping the motion.

See the illustration below.

Such behavior would fit Commander Fravor’s description of the Tic Tac’s erratic movement over the ocean surface. And it provides another design clue for the use of the appendages under the Tic Tac’s cylindrical body besides dissipating static charges.

In summary, the hover effects observed with wobbling discs, steady triangles, and erratic Tic Tacs can all be caused by the same exotic propulsion system. The spheres do not fit the observations and are likely powered by a less exotic though still very advanced propulsion technology.

About The Author

Condorman, who wishes to remain anonymous, is a senior level aerospace engineer who has worked in the defense industry for over 30 years designing advanced technology.

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